Our today's guests are Max Bezzina - the CEO of INGENAV and Richard Landreville - the principal and founder of Betterizon Consultants Inc. We talked about the idea and the team behind the "CHarlie" project and its goals, we discussed if the AI - based tools for ATCOs will replace humans from the job, or if they will remain just as a support in the future, certification of the AI tools and their compatibility with various ATC systems, and of course, what will the next 5 and 50 years bring in the context of AI and Air Traffic Control.